Yehudim in Moshiach 12:7-9

Orthodox Jewish Bible

⁷ For you endure nisyonos for the sake of musar. And Hashem is dealing with you as banim. For what ben is there whom an Abba does not give musar?

⁸ But if you are without musar, in which all the yeladim share, then you are not banim but mamzerim.

⁹ Furthermore, we had Avot on HaAretz, who were morim that we reverenced and treated with kavod. Should we not even more subject ourselves to the Avi HaRuchot and live?